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. >> they are trying to use the middle class argument that they used to get president obama reelected to get a fiscal deal done, the white house is focussed on the middle class, they call senators, and house machines and tell them, -- house numbers, telling them, uncertainty is killing me but they fail to mention that tax hike with fiscal cliff, president obamaments tax hikes on those making more than $2 theft thousand a year, that will affect their middle class that their job creat creators the nor be able to pay them. neil: the train has left that spending station. i should say that taxes will go up. leaving that aside. how do you make the argument that a deal by the end of the year, even if it is bad, is better than no deal, if ratings agents pounce on a crafty deal, let's say waded toward tax hikes not addressinggspending cuts, wouldn't credit agency seize on that and downgrade us just the same? >> absolutely. this is what we saw with debt ceiling last summer, we saw our credit rating go down. and if you want to talk about that, white house tapped tim geithner today, treasury secr
. >> they are trying to use the middle class argument that they used to get president obama reelected to get a fiscal deal done, the white house is focussed on the middle class, they call senators, and house machines and tell them, -- house numbers, telling them, uncertainty is killing me but they fail to mention that tax hike with fiscal cliff, president obamaments tax hikes on those making more than $2 theft thousand a year, that will affect their middle class that their job creat...
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. >> well, i think that president obama definitely has the upper hand in the situation. you have people coming out and saying we don't have on a this anti-tax pledge with grover norquist, a senior republicans, people like bill kristol. you have 12 new house members coming in who refused to sign the pledge. so you start seeing that and it gives the president much stronger leverage to get what he wants. and i think that if the republicans don't come around on and we end up going off the cliff there will get blamed for it. gerri: what do you say? >> i say let's take a look and what happened in november. our government gave the people of america gave the government to the status quo. we are back to where we started in september. the president has a huge do over, and it is his obligation to leave history this. republicans have said we are willing to talk about revenue, but democrats have to be serious on spending. so this idea that anyone has the upper hand is exactly why a deal is not been done. the deal as on the teeseven deal is only as good as it is for both parties. the
. >> well, i think that president obama definitely has the upper hand in the situation. you have people coming out and saying we don't have on a this anti-tax pledge with grover norquist, a senior republicans, people like bill kristol. you have 12 new house members coming in who refused to sign the pledge. so you start seeing that and it gives the president much stronger leverage to get what he wants. and i think that if the republicans don't come around on and we end up going off the...
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while he's not a liberal by traditional standards he is considered an obama backer and he is an obama backer and contributor, i don't think he is the one to deliver that message. but i do think there are other prominent business leaders who are not with regarded who could be coming to this point. this is part of what we're seeing now with the behind-the-scenes talks between the white house and business leaders. as you're talking about warren buffet and the stuff he lloyd out i think back of the op-ed i did with david koch at the republican national convention in tampa where he said he might be open to raising rates in order to balance the budget. and he might be open to military spending cuts. he actually said he was open. he wanted there to be military spending cuts. when you have someone like that who is not only influential in the republican, and the funding the koch brothers steer funding to the grover norquist group. when he comes to that conclusion as well as the senators and representatives who are saying they would consider tax increase, i think you could be seeing a change. h
while he's not a liberal by traditional standards he is considered an obama backer and he is an obama backer and contributor, i don't think he is the one to deliver that message. but i do think there are other prominent business leaders who are not with regarded who could be coming to this point. this is part of what we're seeing now with the behind-the-scenes talks between the white house and business leaders. as you're talking about warren buffet and the stuff he lloyd out i think back of the...
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barack obama. barack obama. lou: i wonder how he reconciles the communists a keyless ways and jamie foxx characterization or do you suppose they bother? up next with morgan russell republicans indicating a willingness to break from broker norquist anti-tax pledge. what does that mean for the future of the republican party? the "a-team" with the answers. we're joined next. ♪ lou: the "a-team" republican pollster, campaign strategist, wall street journal opinion page editor, democratic strategist. good to have you here. let's start with the senators, these folks, on the republican side, the ideaof higher taes saying grover norquist and their -- is their problem. >> did not force their hand. many of them, including senator sax said that like a great deal. the 5-foot blown up version of the pledge he signed behind him at campaign events, raised money on it, ostensibly won his primary because of. every time one of these guys as i can no longer committed to a pledge that to 20 years ago, i am so gratef
barack obama. barack obama. lou: i wonder how he reconciles the communists a keyless ways and jamie foxx characterization or do you suppose they bother? up next with morgan russell republicans indicating a willingness to break from broker norquist anti-tax pledge. what does that mean for the future of the republican party? the "a-team" with the answers. we're joined next. ♪ lou: the "a-team" republican pollster, campaign strategist, wall street journal opinion page editor,...
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obama did nothing to change gun regulation at all and you're still complaining about obama. what more do you want. >> cenk: i acknowledge that he did nothing in his first term about gun control but his second term. >> right. >> cenk: michael, what's on the legislative agenda for the next couple of weeks on gun control? >> i was looking over it, and it turns out cenk, the answer to that question is absolutely nothing. look back at the last four years. they're scheduled to continue with the same agenda on guns. they haven't done anything, and what ana just said is right. if it was bill clinton with his assault weapons ban and he stint want to have people who voteed for bill clinton that would be one thing. barack obama has done zero on gunned, and i don't know why--so what. home people voted for barack obama wanted to go to that shooting range any way? >> i'm sorry this is the thing though, a we all ask questions. who need the assault rifles, the bombs and the grenades, they say we just need it for hunting and protection. they think that liberals and progressives don't own gun
obama did nothing to change gun regulation at all and you're still complaining about obama. what more do you want. >> cenk: i acknowledge that he did nothing in his first term about gun control but his second term. >> right. >> cenk: michael, what's on the legislative agenda for the next couple of weeks on gun control? >> i was looking over it, and it turns out cenk, the answer to that question is absolutely nothing. look back at the last four years. they're scheduled to...
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. >> i hope my friends at fox are sit down when they hear this, it could be a shock, president obama didn't invent trillion dollar deficits he inherited them. >>neil: i hope this doesn't come as a shock as my friend the illinois senator we are now knee-deep in trillions of dollars of more deficits. and larry sabato with simple advice, stop blaming and start fixing. you are saying both parties are to blame but the attack on fox notwithstanding, i am wondering, are democrats overplaying their hand? >>guest: they will have everplayed it if in the end it results in another deadlock and the same is true for republicans. we are at a special moment when we do have an opportunity to solve a lot of big problems simultaneously from the debt to entitlement growth, to the tax reform issue, tax loopholes there are a lot of things that could go into this and this is a very different situation from august of 2011 when we had the big deadlock of the debt ceiling. this after an election. if we can't solve the problems now, when are we going to solve them? >>neil: i am not encouraged by the smoke sign
. >> i hope my friends at fox are sit down when they hear this, it could be a shock, president obama didn't invent trillion dollar deficits he inherited them. >>neil: i hope this doesn't come as a shock as my friend the illinois senator we are now knee-deep in trillions of dollars of more deficits. and larry sabato with simple advice, stop blaming and start fixing. you are saying both parties are to blame but the attack on fox notwithstanding, i am wondering, are democrats...
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for four years president obama has not reined in spending. all he did is demand $1.6 trillion of tax increase so he can spend more money, not reining in spending. we need focus on spending problems because that's the problem we have. >> warren buffett wrote this fascinating piece in the "new york times" today. you're familiar with it today. suppose they come to you with an investment idea. i'm in it. i think you should be, too. would your reply be this? it depends on what my tax rate is on the gain we're going to make. if the tax isn't too high, i'd rather leave the money in my savings account. war len buff set says only in norquist imagine kwis. why are you so concerned about protecting the vast wealth of america's small percentage of increasingly rich people? why do you care? >> i'm in favor of not raising taxes on all the american people and as you know the american people quite rightly understand that politicians who say i tax the rich have not finished the sentence. the sentence runs i'm going to tax the rich first and then i'm coming fo
for four years president obama has not reined in spending. all he did is demand $1.6 trillion of tax increase so he can spend more money, not reining in spending. we need focus on spending problems because that's the problem we have. >> warren buffett wrote this fascinating piece in the "new york times" today. you're familiar with it today. suppose they come to you with an investment idea. i'm in it. i think you should be, too. would your reply be this? it depends on what my tax...
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we don't know what religion obama is, christian muslim. as you pointed out with your examples there's no they're there, but they feel they to have fill the hours with something p.m. they've got their christmas ornaments packed away, they have to make good with what they have. >> of course, they can't blame everything on barack obama so they have to go in another direction when it comes to christmas. >> you know. >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was just going to say there is an interesting debate about the role christmas has in our culture now and the corps rottization of it and the fact that big business that sort of turned it into a consumer extravaganza. on thanksgiving, lots of retail workers were forced to work on a family holiday. there's a logical place you can take this discussion, but fox news can't attack big business. it can't attack corporate culture, so it's got to be somehow democrats are ruining the holiday. >> i was going to say it's sort of war on exploitation that other people should be having against those people. that's not goin
we don't know what religion obama is, christian muslim. as you pointed out with your examples there's no they're there, but they feel they to have fill the hours with something p.m. they've got their christmas ornaments packed away, they have to make good with what they have. >> of course, they can't blame everything on barack obama so they have to go in another direction when it comes to christmas. >> you know. >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was just going to say there is an...
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does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't think so because they also re-elected the house republicans. so whether people intend it or not, we have divided government. >> so you don't think there's a mandate here? >> i don't because then they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. see, i think the ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. >> anyway, it turns out paul ryan is wrong. when you look at the raw vote, voters cast about 400,000 votes more for house democrats than for republicans, and with votes still being counted, as rick said, that's expected to go to a million vote majority. my question is why are they getting into this whole thing? when we have elections, i worked for tip o'neill, tip never came out and said but we have a 40-seat majority in the house and we'll have a bigger one after reagan gets re-elected. the presidential election is where the mandate goes. >> first, i agree with rick that this began with bill clinton, the sense of no legitimacy to a democ
does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't think so because they also re-elected the house republicans. so whether people intend it or not, we have divided government. >> so you don't think there's a mandate here? >> i don't because then they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. see, i think the ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. >> anyway, it turns out paul ryan is wrong. when you look at the raw vote, voters...
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. >> president obama is getting ready to pack his bags. that's right. the campaigner in chief is heading back out onto the trail. he does know he won, right? >> i'm steve kornacki. for me of us it's home for the holidays. you get a rare chance to see old friends and distant relatives. the bad news is you get a chance to see old friends and distant relatives. >> i'm making a pledge to my friend grover norquist. you're in "the cycle," and you have my word it's going to be good. >>> the case against ambassador susan rice as a successor to hillary clinton deepens. she went to the hill today to smooth it over with senators mccain, ayotte and graham who criticized her original comments on the deadly benghazi attacks. i picture the conversation between the president and rice going like this. we want you as secretary of state, so go make nice. answer their questions so they stop attacking you and threatening to block your possible nomination. yeah, so how did that work out? >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we did
. >> president obama is getting ready to pack his bags. that's right. the campaigner in chief is heading back out onto the trail. he does know he won, right? >> i'm steve kornacki. for me of us it's home for the holidays. you get a rare chance to see old friends and distant relatives. the bad news is you get a chance to see old friends and distant relatives. >> i'm making a pledge to my friend grover norquist. you're in "the cycle," and you have my word it's going to...
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they new mitt romney didn't want to do it and voted for president obama. he has the authority of the election behind him, and that gives him a good hand here. >> david let me ask you about grover norquist. the man who authored the pledge that so many reps signed and mike lee was the latest to say there's a lot of ways to skin a cat and back off the pledge. grover spoke to soledad on cnn. here was his comment. >> if you want to go to your voters and say, i promised you this, and i'm breaking my promise, you can have that conversation with them. you don't have an argument to we. you made a commitment to voters. >> he says he will try to unseat people that go against the pledge? is this a real risk that people that are up for re-election could lose jobs over this it or no? >> it is a real risk. it's not just grover norquist, it's the club for growth and other entities that do that. understand what direction these people leading the party in. they concede the republican party is a fundamental congressional and oppositional force. the whole point of the pledge
they new mitt romney didn't want to do it and voted for president obama. he has the authority of the election behind him, and that gives him a good hand here. >> david let me ask you about grover norquist. the man who authored the pledge that so many reps signed and mike lee was the latest to say there's a lot of ways to skin a cat and back off the pledge. grover spoke to soledad on cnn. here was his comment. >> if you want to go to your voters and say, i promised you this, and i'm...
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they don't vote and this becomes the obama tax hike, the obama spending cut. on him. let him own it. they voted for him. let them own it. >> brian: house democrats going along with maybe john boehner caucus to pass it. that is how divided it could be. it could cost them the house. when it's said and done and we're sitting here on december 31, emergency session of five five -- i'll be here in case of injury -- there will be sitting there saying this is deal we got to cut. we got to get the democrats to come along with republicans. >> dana: aside from politics i don't think enough people are talking about what is the right policy and the right answer and solution to get the economy going again? see that social security and medicare is saved for the next generation. >> eric: one quick point, can we as five or the con seventives, bob you should be interested in this, too. forget social security. we pay to the social security system. it's self-fulfilling. >> bob: they pay in medicare, too. >> eric: but we way with payroll and fica to social security. government raids socia
they don't vote and this becomes the obama tax hike, the obama spending cut. on him. let him own it. they voted for him. let them own it. >> brian: house democrats going along with maybe john boehner caucus to pass it. that is how divided it could be. it could cost them the house. when it's said and done and we're sitting here on december 31, emergency session of five five -- i'll be here in case of injury -- there will be sitting there saying this is deal we got to cut. we got to get the...
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john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give a much more positive agenda. and as far as young women are concerned, absolutely. i don't think anybody like me, i can state my position on borgs, but other than that, leave the issue alone. >> you say leave the issue alone. you'd say freedom of choice is this. >> i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those positions. i'm proud of my pro-life opinion and record, but i respect your views. >> as republicans continue to access their second loss of the presidency in a row, they keep grasping at all kinds of straws instead of admitting they were up against a superior candidate in barack
john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give...
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you think we're we're we're seeing some reports that there's actually a debate going on inside the obama administration about you know more or less how that's done all i kind of thing with regard to the drone warfare do you think that there are voices within the obama administration that are suggesting that they might have even crossed the line into into war crimes. well i i we do understand from people we're talking to when people we're interviewing for the documentary itself that there's a real debate between the cia which is launching these drones and is only used and remember by the way we are not at war with pakistan we are sending drones into pakistan violating their sovereignty in defiance of their parliament and what they've asked us to so you have that on the one hand the cia on the other hand apparently you have people in the state department who know that this is not we're not going to be able to kill our way to a solution and who are exposed in the expansion of the drones who which may in fact be both illegal according to the united nations and the war crimes particularly as
you think we're we're we're seeing some reports that there's actually a debate going on inside the obama administration about you know more or less how that's done all i kind of thing with regard to the drone warfare do you think that there are voices within the obama administration that are suggesting that they might have even crossed the line into into war crimes. well i i we do understand from people we're talking to when people we're interviewing for the documentary itself that there's a...
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when president obama was there and you could try to deny him a second term. that was their organizing principle. that is gone. it's going is to be harder this time around. especially as the economy gets better. >> it's going to take more than grass roots. it's great they are organizing and talking about it, but president obama had an innate ability to raise big money. can the democrats duplicate that? i mean there's going to be somebody coming along and inspiring people to the next level to keep this thing going. can it have an effect in the midterms? >> there's a difference between what president obama was doing in the end, and these big donors coming together in what mitt romney called the darkrooms. what you've got to have here is some of this big money sitting it out for 2016. they have to be focused on 2014 and try to win back especially the house seats. that's where the real difference is going to come. if the president gets another honeymoon, it's going to be over by february. does he get a second? >> the finances of the country is very important. but
when president obama was there and you could try to deny him a second term. that was their organizing principle. that is gone. it's going is to be harder this time around. especially as the economy gets better. >> it's going to take more than grass roots. it's great they are organizing and talking about it, but president obama had an innate ability to raise big money. can the democrats duplicate that? i mean there's going to be somebody coming along and inspiring people to the next level...
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something president obama campaigned and won re-election on. senator lindsey graham also breaking with norquist says no on higher tax rates, but is open to more tax revenue by limiting deductions. >> i will violate the pledge long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> another lawmaker who's breaking with the norquist agrees. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases, i'm not going to prejudge it, we should not be taking iron clad positions. >> late today in the situation room, republican kevin mccarthy, the house majority whip put a fresh spin on what seems to be the talking points. >> if the goal is to raise more revenue, what is the best way to do that? at the same time protecting the economy? if you're able to gain more revenue by closing special loopholes, and limiting them. and keeping the rate down, so you have better ground control. isn't that a better outcome. >> talk of tax deductions and closing loopholes. a big note on raising tax rates. a lot
something president obama campaigned and won re-election on. senator lindsey graham also breaking with norquist says no on higher tax rates, but is open to more tax revenue by limiting deductions. >> i will violate the pledge long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> another lawmaker who's breaking with the norquist agrees. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases, i'm not going to...
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they got bad information from president obama days after. and the question is should they have been giving the information at all. if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? >> ah. let's go straight to cnn's dana bash. so before we heard that pretty explosive news conference, it seemed as though there was a bit of a softening of some of the gop's opposition to ms. rice's moving up in the president's cabinet. now after hearing that, i need to get some clarity if i can from you about whether the criticism is about ms. rice and what she delivered to the american people, which turned out to be wrong, or whether it is about the intelligence community and what they delivered to ms. rice. can you give us a feel. >> reporter: i think the answer to that question is both. the criticism is of both. but the focus this morning was on susan rice and is on susan rice because she is potentially the president's nominee to be the next secretary of state. and what republicans, you heard from lindsay graham, j
they got bad information from president obama days after. and the question is should they have been giving the information at all. if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? >> ah. let's go straight to cnn's dana bash. so before we heard that pretty explosive news conference, it seemed as though there was a bit of a softening of some of the gop's opposition to ms. rice's moving up in the president's cabinet. now after hearing that, i...
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another round of white house talks between congressional leaders and president obama was promised but is yet to materialize. a senate democratic leadership aide told us that staff level meetings p are meant to lay the groundwork haven't been very productive. one senate republican leadership aide accuses democrats of leaking details in order to portray republicans negatively. the aide notes that the talks are continuing, which ifrts can be read as some sort of progress. whether that's real progress or washington progress remains to be seen. >>> a lot to talk about starting with tennessee republican senator bob corker. senator corker, thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about grover norquist. no new taxes pledge. you said earlier in your career, you told cbs morning news earlier today and i'm quoting now, you said you're not obligated on the pledge adding the only thing that i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i'm sworn in this january. so what exactly did you mean by that? did you suggest, did you mean that under certain circumstances you'd be ready to accept an increase
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i think he will also ask president obama, though, that the u.s./mexican relationship should not just be restricted to drugs and security. that there are other very important issues whether those are economic ties, et cetera, or immigration reform which becomes more likely or less unlikely than before the election. so i think the main point pena nieto will try to get across to president obama will be no more just drugs. let's talk about other things, too, and perhaps not only -- no longer place drugs at the top of the agenda. >> and mexico's economy has actually been turning a corner, has it not? >> it's been doing better, the last few years. we had a very rough year in 2009 like the entire world did. >> sure. >> since then we've been doing more, better and better, the mexican economy is growing at 3.5% to 4%. doing better than brazil, by the way, the last couple of years. most people think brazil is sort of the hot eitem. it's actually not entirely true. and i think a lot can be done between mexico and the united states to make both countries and
i think he will also ask president obama, though, that the u.s./mexican relationship should not just be restricted to drugs and security. that there are other very important issues whether those are economic ties, et cetera, or immigration reform which becomes more likely or less unlikely than before the election. so i think the main point pena nieto will try to get across to president obama will be no more just drugs. let's talk about other things, too, and perhaps not only -- no longer place...
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president obama takes his plan to the people. the white house launches a new campaign to promote middle-class tax cuts, but are we closer to or further from the fiscal cliff? economist justin woolfers weighs in, jose diaz-balart on whether republican heard the wake-up call on immigration reform. there was a lot on the ballot this year but is the drug war over? we will ask knorr new york m-- new york magazine's benjamin wallace-wells about weed's new world order when "now" starts in 180 seconds. folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy, ronny? happier than gallagher at a farmers' market. get happy. get geico. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. >>> if we had only known yesterday what we know today or known yesterday that we didn't know then what we know today. wait. what? it's tuesday, november 27th. this is "now." >>> joining me today, mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. benjamin wallace-wells of "
president obama takes his plan to the people. the white house launches a new campaign to promote middle-class tax cuts, but are we closer to or further from the fiscal cliff? economist justin woolfers weighs in, jose diaz-balart on whether republican heard the wake-up call on immigration reform. there was a lot on the ballot this year but is the drug war over? we will ask knorr new york m-- new york magazine's benjamin wallace-wells about weed's new world order when "now" starts in...
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people knew that's exactly what president obama knew. they knew mitt romney didn't want to do it, and they voted for president obama. >> david, let me ask you about grover norquist. obviously, the man who authored the pledge that so many reasons have signed. mike lee from utah was the latest on the show to say, back off the pledge. grover spoke to soledad this morning on cnn, if you break my pledge, you're going to have to deal with voters. here was his comment. >> if youen watt to go to your voters and say, i promised you this, and i'm breaking my promise. you can have that conversation with them, but you're not having that argument with me. you made a commitment to your voters. >> he says he's going to try to unseat people who go against the pledge. is this a real risk that saxby chambliss or lindsey graham could end up losing their jobs over 24? >> it is a real risk. understand what direction these people are leading the party in. they conceive the republican party is fundamentally a congressional force, oppositional force. the whole
people knew that's exactly what president obama knew. they knew mitt romney didn't want to do it, and they voted for president obama. >> david, let me ask you about grover norquist. obviously, the man who authored the pledge that so many reasons have signed. mike lee from utah was the latest on the show to say, back off the pledge. grover spoke to soledad this morning on cnn, if you break my pledge, you're going to have to deal with voters. here was his comment. >> if youen watt to...
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so sit back in your house and yelled obama, obama while he takes all of the food out of your mouth. host: let me echo some sentiments your efforts to facee spending resistance. the two senators, the story often notes that this is what they would like to see from the president. they want him to start negotiations at a one-one ratio. putting them in line with many in the parties that want to see a harder line taken by democrats. some advocating going over the fiscal cliff. democratic caller, mary, what do you think? having delivered the cliff and start over. host: are you concerned about the economic impact? caller: i do not know why on earth -- i am on social security. host: in order not to touch those programs -- caller: just kind of overhaul them. just fix them a tas -- tad. host: what about raising the eligibility age? caller: do not do that. i am 59. i might retire run 65. host: that is mary. on our line for republicans, kevin, go ahead. . caller: i think they should go off the cliff. for the past four years we heard how terrible the bush tax cuts are. i think we definitely need
so sit back in your house and yelled obama, obama while he takes all of the food out of your mouth. host: let me echo some sentiments your efforts to facee spending resistance. the two senators, the story often notes that this is what they would like to see from the president. they want him to start negotiations at a one-one ratio. putting them in line with many in the parties that want to see a harder line taken by democrats. some advocating going over the fiscal cliff. democratic caller,...
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president obama wants to get it done. he wants to keep the sort of onus on republicans to get something done. that, i think, will focus us a little bit on immigration reform, maybe a slight move off the fiscal cliff for a few hours tomorrow. >> in fact, i think the meeting actually starts this afternoon, so i misspoke on that. they might have wanted not to it talk about the drug war, but they have this horrible assassination now of the death of the mayor a fighter against the cartel and already lost her husband. it goes on. >> absolutely. i would say, andrea, always with these meetings you get to talk about what you want to talk about and also things you don't want to talk about. let's see what comes out of it when they greet the cameras and what they have to say. my guess is we'll hear some talk about immigration and the need to reform it. >> a lot of people hope for a new chapter between the two countries. a much more intense relationship. thank you very much, chris. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell rep
president obama wants to get it done. he wants to keep the sort of onus on republicans to get something done. that, i think, will focus us a little bit on immigration reform, maybe a slight move off the fiscal cliff for a few hours tomorrow. >> in fact, i think the meeting actually starts this afternoon, so i misspoke on that. they might have wanted not to it talk about the drug war, but they have this horrible assassination now of the death of the mayor a fighter against the cartel and...
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supported obama himself. so the mandate here is clear. it's for higher taxes on the rich and it's not for messing around with entitlements right now. >> ryan grim, susan page, thanks. >> thanks. >> thank you. >>> and we are keeping our eye out for you on ambassador susan rice to discuss her remarks on the benghazi consulate. she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> a state senator from idaho is now getting behind a plan that's been circulating on tea party blogs. calling for states
supported obama himself. so the mandate here is clear. it's for higher taxes on the rich and it's not for messing around with entitlements right now. >> ryan grim, susan page, thanks. >> thanks. >> thank you. >>> and we are keeping our eye out for you on ambassador susan rice to discuss her remarks on the benghazi consulate. she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a...
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coming up, president obama's new fiscal cliff strategy revealed. the president taking a page from his campaign. he's trying to get the public on his side when it comes to extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class. do the exit polls show he has the public on his side? chris van hollen will join us live. plus, another day of deadly protests in cairo over egypt's president morsi's new sweeping powers that he is seeking. we'll get a live report. plus, the former head of florida's republican party, he's making a stunning claim about the state's early voting law saying it was deliberately designed to suppress minority votes. it's just one of the things we thought you should know. join our conversation on twitter. you can find us at @tamronhall and at @newsnation. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things that hang and shine... ...to the things that sparkle and jingle. all while saving the things that go in our wa
coming up, president obama's new fiscal cliff strategy revealed. the president taking a page from his campaign. he's trying to get the public on his side when it comes to extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class. do the exit polls show he has the public on his side? chris van hollen will join us live. plus, another day of deadly protests in cairo over egypt's president morsi's new sweeping powers that he is seeking. we'll get a live report. plus, the former head of florida's republican...
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republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort of by default it has become their opening negotiation position. >> i see. so their opening position is the one that was vigorously debated and comprehensively defeated just three weeks ago. i guess the only question now is, who will play naughty and who will play nice? let's get in our panel now. in a special new york appearance, msnbc political analyst david corn, author of too many books to mention. and in philadelphia, lehigh university professor james peterson. david, if i can start with you, as we approach the final tally, it appears that mitt romney will indeed receive 47% of the national vote. he i
republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort...
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that senate democrat was president obama. i don't often agree with president obama on matters of policy and the issue he was referring to here was different than this one, but the principle he expressed in defending his position then is one that i believe in wholeheartedly. let me sum it up this way. for the sake of this institution and the future of the country, i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grab strenuously and loudly. it may be the most important thing you ever do. because the debates of the moment are passing but the senate must endure. and nothing less is at stake. mr. president, i yield the floor. >> republican leader, absolutely true, i follow the golden rule and it is very clear what has happened during this congress we can go over all the numbers and really project what happened about the hundreds and hundreds of times we have been forced to file cloture on relatively meaningless things my friend the republican leader thinks changing rules can make the senate more efficient as an assault
that senate democrat was president obama. i don't often agree with president obama on matters of policy and the issue he was referring to here was different than this one, but the principle he expressed in defending his position then is one that i believe in wholeheartedly. let me sum it up this way. for the sake of this institution and the future of the country, i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grab strenuously and loudly. it may be the most important thing you ever...
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obama went after a deal. the package would extend the bush tax cut for two years extend the tax cuts for the wealthy. obama had won 238 of stimulus for yielding on 114 billion in high income tax cuts. he says clearly obama had gotten the better deal. the public had been seen this over tax cuts answered over that obama had not gotten what he wanted. axelrod and other aids were not allowed to admit in public that the president had achieved a second stimulus. that's part of why the economy has gotten better and better and we've had all these months of job growth. corn finishes by saying what happened is not an indication that obama is likely to yield in a new faceoff but he will be assessing the dynamics in a new grid lock. that's not caving in, that's governing. much more as we continue on the "stephanie miller show." >> putting people out of work. >> stephanie: we need to get rid of all of them. there will be lungs on every governor tomorrow night. she is awesome. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller s
obama went after a deal. the package would extend the bush tax cut for two years extend the tax cuts for the wealthy. obama had won 238 of stimulus for yielding on 114 billion in high income tax cuts. he says clearly obama had gotten the better deal. the public had been seen this over tax cuts answered over that obama had not gotten what he wanted. axelrod and other aids were not allowed to admit in public that the president had achieved a second stimulus. that's part of why the economy has...
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that would bay down obama's debt by economic growth. eliminating deductions and credits to give the government more money to spend not only wastes more money, raises taxes, it guts tax reform in the future. this is something the "wall street journal" knows and steve moore wrote about just last saturday. we ought to be going for lower marginal tax rates to have economic growth, and of course obama wants republicans, some republicans to start a discussion about how they'd raise taxes, while nobody has asked him or van hollen on your show what spending cuts are you talking about, he mentioned spending cuts -- stpho: it's a fair point and dick durbin a democratic senator from illinois is going to say you need to separate the fiscal cliff discussions from any talk about reforming medicare or medicaid. the bottom line in all of this is you're not going to get a vote that passes in the house unless democrats concede on the entitlement programs, and that there is the stalemate, in the 15 seconds i have left, right or wrong? >> well the challeng
that would bay down obama's debt by economic growth. eliminating deductions and credits to give the government more money to spend not only wastes more money, raises taxes, it guts tax reform in the future. this is something the "wall street journal" knows and steve moore wrote about just last saturday. we ought to be going for lower marginal tax rates to have economic growth, and of course obama wants republicans, some republicans to start a discussion about how they'd raise taxes,...
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it went for obama. we gotta be vigilant because every two years, there is another opportunity for them to narrow that electorate to make sure the people that they don't want to vote, that they stay at home. >> bill: so now we know, republicans have finally admitted in florida what that was all about as they were trying to steal the election. suppress the vote. prevent democrats from voting. steal the election. and they failed. but you know what? they're not going to give up. in florida and in other states. we gotta be on top of that for sure. great, great work as always for think progress. igor volsky, deputy editor. thanks for coming in this morning. thank you. >> bill: we'll be right back and take a look at some of the e-mails flowing in already this morning here on today's "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." you hang up first. [ female announcer ] in just 60 seconds, you've got snack-defying, satisfying totino's pizza rolls. [ ringing ] it's on. let's roll. at cepacol we'
it went for obama. we gotta be vigilant because every two years, there is another opportunity for them to narrow that electorate to make sure the people that they don't want to vote, that they stay at home. >> bill: so now we know, republicans have finally admitted in florida what that was all about as they were trying to steal the election. suppress the vote. prevent democrats from voting. steal the election. and they failed. but you know what? they're not going to give up. in florida...
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obama care. we achieve many of those savings by ending the overpayments to some of the private insurance companies within medicare. >> but we don't have health care costs under control. and that still is -- obama care did not address the rising cost of health care. frankly, some say wasn't even meant to. it was about access to health care. we can -- we can -- we can fight that battle all over again. but, bottom line, i think, is that, you know, mitch mcconnell and others have said that, you know, they're the ones who are bending. they're not seeing the bending from the democrats. let's listen to mcconnell for a second here. >> republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone, we've been clear about what we'll do and what we won't, and yet we remain at an impasse. leading us to ask, why? because a vocal minority on the hard left continues to argue to leaders of their party from the president on down that democrats in washington should do absolutely nothing about short-term or long-term spending pr
obama care. we achieve many of those savings by ending the overpayments to some of the private insurance companies within medicare. >> but we don't have health care costs under control. and that still is -- obama care did not address the rising cost of health care. frankly, some say wasn't even meant to. it was about access to health care. we can -- we can -- we can fight that battle all over again. but, bottom line, i think, is that, you know, mitch mcconnell and others have said that,...
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some of the same things we heard president obama talk about. but we also can't forget the issue of immigration because a lot of the workforce here in this country comes from mexico and then there is the issue of what do you do about illegal immigrants in this country. something the president said he wanted to tackle in his first term he did not. he's promising to do in his second term. we heard from white house spokesman jay carney saying yesterday that the president senses a real opportunity here to move forward, that he believes that comprehensive immigration reform is achievable. so this is a long-standing relationship between the two countries, focusing on a whole host of issues, but the mexicans hoping it can focus more on economic issues than it has in the past. >> so economic issues, comprehensive immigration reform. i are have to ask you about the issue in terms of fighting drug cartels. how will president elect pena nieto be different in his approach? >> reporter: that's right. you make a very important point there, because felipe cald
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same with president obama and think obama care and financial reform . attacking wall street as the villian. president roosevelt did that . wall street was the villians and shades of that exactly. 2013 president obama wall street is the villiage and then the rearrangement of society. fdr tried to do it. and president obama is doing it and run away government spending. parallels are there and hope it doesn't work out like it did then. >> we want all americans back to work. and back in the 30s industrial plummeted 34 percent in the first year of the second term. >> that is a depression in and of itself . set in the overall depression of the 1930s. 1937 was a catastrophic year. >> steve: how did thereat look some >> not much better. what bailed america and the world out of the depression was the second world war. >> gretchen: exactly. how did you get out of the mess in the 30s. we don't want to predict that. >> steve: we are just getting out of two of them. >> i think the bottom line here is fdr's policiless did not get america out of the great depression,
same with president obama and think obama care and financial reform . attacking wall street as the villian. president roosevelt did that . wall street was the villians and shades of that exactly. 2013 president obama wall street is the villiage and then the rearrangement of society. fdr tried to do it. and president obama is doing it and run away government spending. parallels are there and hope it doesn't work out like it did then. >> we want all americans back to work. and back in the...
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obama is demanded by congress and george w. bush's tax cuts for the top 2% of income earners households earning more than two and $50,000 a year, that those are extended. the middle class defined as households earning under that amount would be spared, continuing to enjoy the lower rates ushered through congress by mr. bush -- >> "washington journal" airs live every morning at seven eastern on c-span. senators are coming by again after their weekly party lunches, and are expected to debate defense and public policy programs. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from new york. mr. schumer: i ask unanimous consent the quorum be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. schumer: mr. president, i rise to discuss the state of the ongoing negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff. so far, there's been little progress reported at the negotiating table. since the president's very productive meeting with the bipartisan leaders from the house and senate on november 16, the subsequent s
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he's known boehner for years and believes the speaker wants to make a deal with president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff, but he's seen washington's dysfunction and has his doubts. >> he's somewhat just like the president. it's time to do ahead and do your job. >> speaker boehner is secure enough in his own district that his constituents will give him a free hand to negotiate. his bigger challenge is pulling together republicans from districts across the country behind any deal he ultimately strikes with president obama. >> carl, that's not just john boehner's job. it's also the job of eric cantor, the majority leader the on the democratic seed, harry reid and chuck schumer have to pull their flock behind any potential deal struck. that's not easy getting 60 votes the in the senate and the majority of the house. >> rangling cats on both sides, john. the president meeting with business executives at the white house, going to pennsylvania this week to visit a small business. all theater, or is there something bigger going on? >> he's trying to put pressure on the congress and generate mor
he's known boehner for years and believes the speaker wants to make a deal with president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff, but he's seen washington's dysfunction and has his doubts. >> he's somewhat just like the president. it's time to do ahead and do your job. >> speaker boehner is secure enough in his own district that his constituents will give him a free hand to negotiate. his bigger challenge is pulling together republicans from districts across the country behind any deal he...
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president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, mark. so the house is back in session today, and so far there are no talks scheduled between top republicans and the president, we understand. >> no, that's true, zoraida. in fact we haven't seen the congressional leadership and president obama meet since november 16th. now there were staff discussions over the thanksgiving holiday. they don't seem to be as productive as some people had hoped, as you said, we are now 35 days until the fiscal cliff. what we do know, though, is that president obama did reach out to house speaker john boehner. he is the republican, the senate
president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, mark. so the house is back in session...
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bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> probably due for another obama. i think bush, like christie, is a republican who has crossover appeal. he has tremendous support among hispanics because of his position on immigration reform. tonight i'm actually going to be with governor bush. condi rice and joe klein are doing a summit talking about the need for educational reform as a big national security challenge unless we get k-12 education right. we're not going to get this country right and a the fact someone like jeb bush has become one of the champions of education reform to me shows how republicans can are have tremendous appeal if they go beyond the narrow agenda. >> what do you think? >> i think he has enormous appeal. a very attractive candidate. as richard pointed out, he is not the republican candidate we've seen in the past couple of elections. he has enormous appeal to the hispanic community in this country. he has a real -- he's been a governor. he has made decisions. he's worked with legislatures. he knows how to get things done. >> does his las
bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> probably due for another obama. i think bush, like christie, is a republican who has crossover appeal. he has tremendous support among hispanics because of his position on immigration reform. tonight i'm actually going to be with governor bush. condi rice and joe klein are doing a summit talking about the need for educational reform as a big national security challenge unless we get k-12 education right. we're not going to get this country right and a...
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you've see an emboldened president obama sticking to his guns here. interesting to see. and still has questions to answer about benghazi. >> he hasn't publicly said she is his choice. be but he has that position to fill as well as treasury secretary because tim geithner will be leaving. two high-profile positions, hillary clinton and geithner. >> second term shuffle. as they say. here we go. >> yes, it is. >>> new demonstrations set across egypt with tension growing over president morsi's recent power grab. protesters tossed molotov cocktails at police in cairo's tahrir square as they rallied against morsi's decision last week to seize absolute power and put himself above judicial review. now, some morsi supporters canceled a competing rally in cairo, hoping to diffuse anger and tension. >>> also mourners have gathered at the burned out factory in bangladesh to remember the workers who died there. at least 110 people were killed and dozens injured in a fire after the disaster armed police were at the factory in order to maintain some order. workers rights' groups are hop
you've see an emboldened president obama sticking to his guns here. interesting to see. and still has questions to answer about benghazi. >> he hasn't publicly said she is his choice. be but he has that position to fill as well as treasury secretary because tim geithner will be leaving. two high-profile positions, hillary clinton and geithner. >> second term shuffle. as they say. here we go. >> yes, it is. >>> new demonstrations set across egypt with tension growing...